in_nomine-digest Thursday, November 7 2002 Volume 01 : Number 2849 In this digest: Re: IN> [fiction] =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Mirror=20Mirror=22?= Re: IN> Isn't it amazing what people will do for a Word..... Re: IN> INverse Superior: David (Djinn Version) Part 2 Re: IN> [fiction] "Mirror Mirror" Re: IN> Janus Re: IN> Isn't it amazing what people will do for a Word..... Re: IN> [fiction] "Mirror Mirror" Re: IN> [fiction] =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Mirror=20Mirror=22?= IN> Fall of the Grigori. Re: IN>New Attunements Re: IN> [fiction] "Mirror Mirror" Re: IN> Fall of the Grigori. Re: IN> Greetings Re: IN> INverse Superior: David (Djinn Version) Part 2 Re: IN> Fall of the Grigori. Re: IN> Janus Re: IN> Janus Re: IN> Fall of the Grigori. IN> Just a little something I've been thinking about . . . IN> Madame Guillotine IN> Project Silence: DETACHMENT (Not from Mr. Cleveland...) IN> Superior Relic: Maurice's Bag Re: IN> Janus Re: IN> Janus RE: IN> Janus Re: IN>New Attunements IN> Re: Project Silence: Detachment Re: IN> Madame Guillotine ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 14:52:42 -0700 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> [fiction] =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Mirror=20Mirror=22?= Harukami writes: > Hmm... I've been working on this this evening, and thought I'd share it. > C&C always welcome - this is a bit of a first draft, and I'm not sure how > to revise it. ^_~ > > Oh, and... um, cussing at the end. > > Harukami Heh. While I'm not too interested in the whole Janus/Valefor thing, this was a interesting way of portraying the two. I like how Valefor was somber and slow as compared to his heavenly twin. Although, I must ask. Wouldn't it be more fitting for Valefor to say "damn him damn him damn him" at the end instead of swearing? Otherwise, nice bit. --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity (currently being ridden by Grapejuice, Renegade Shedite of the Game, and petitioner for the Word of Pranking Tightwads) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:18:35 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Isn't it amazing what people will do for a Word..... That's evil, James. Add to it the possibility that the Shedite might have help from Ethereals -- Camazotz or Tezcatlipoca would love for human sacrifice to be in the news again, while Pele might appreciate the respect. I'm not aware of any cults in Africa that practiced that form of human sacrifice, though. Share with the class? =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"There are two kinds of selfishness: the kind that says, 'I must do what will make me happy,' and the kind that says, 'You must do what will make me happy.' The first is good, the second is bad." - -- Kenton E. Sinner

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:16:01 -0700 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> INverse Superior: David (Djinn Version) Part 2 Michael Walton writes: > SERVITOR ATTUNEMENTS > > Ringer > When David needs a group infiltrated he sends one of his > Ringers. Each of these demons has a pool of 10 CP with > which to purchase a temporary Role with appropriate skills > (this can increase existing skills) and Status. Once the > assignment is over the Role fades away and the demon > forgets any skills that he gained from it. The demon may > purchase this Attunement multiple times to increase the > size of the CP pool. So basically, they have 10 CP to use on a Role to purchase whatever they need, and when that Role is no longer needed, everything bought with those 10 points dissapears, and the 10 points are freed up again? > > CHANCE OF INVOCATION: 3 > It's relatively easy to get David's attention. Wanting > it is another matter. Any Servitor who wastes the > Unifier's time risks being assimilated into David's > personal Forces. Yeow! Approriate. Must make him quite the frightening Prince to summon (I think you don't need this Ethereal Force... *slurp*) Well, this looks all well and good, and I'll be sure to get it correctly posted into the website soon. Nice work, and thanks again. --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity (currently being ridden by Grapejuice, Renegade Shedite of the Game, and petitioner for the Word of Pranking Tightwads) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 17:28:24 -0800 From: Harukami Subject: Re: IN> [fiction] "Mirror Mirror" >Yeah, that was really really good. > >Wow. *blushes* Thanks! >Uhmm... hhm. To tell the truth, I'm at a loss as to whether this meant that >when one looked in the mirror, just coincidentally, so too did the other or >if they are literally reflections of one another. Yes and yes, actually. I'm not saying that they both looked in mirrors and saw the other person *literally*, but they both looked into mirrors and the reflection seemed to be the other. >Oh, and are we going to see Mr. Jones become another of the un-canon >personal servitors? I hope so! [laughs] He's certainly cropping up lately in everything I do with Valefor... Hmm. Suppose I could write him up... Thanks again for the comments, and to everyone else who has commented so far! Harukami - ---- http://haru_in.tripod.com/ Haru's IN page: Game logs, art, and fiction. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:29:14 +0000 From: "Jarrod Carmichael" Subject: Re: IN> Janus My groups thrown a number of rites, oaths, and attunements at me. With the suggestion to nab valefors ones i think I have almost enough to proceed. But more suggestions from folks will be welcome. Mallakai Aka JC >From: Elizabeth McCoy >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: Re: IN> Janus >Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:00:03 -0500 > >At 1:11 AM +0000 11/6/02, Jarrod Carmichael wrote: > >Im currently writing up an extended background on Janus for a player in >my > >campaign. Hes been complaining that everyone else has a big write up, >with > >extra attunements and such. So to shut him up im throwing together a > >document. > >If you grab Superiors 4, the pattern of Janus and Valefor swiping >(Swiping?) >powers from each other is going to be continued, at least somewhat. >Distract, Escape Artist, and Shepherd are likely to port over. Covet... >maybe not. > >--Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor >http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:29:21 -0700 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> Isn't it amazing what people will do for a Word..... Ow... nice seed there. I'd imagine Christopher and Gabriel will be quite enraged with this. Heck, if the PC's work it out, it may make Dominic look a wee bit dumb for rushing to the point, and maybe make some amends with the Mad Archangel. --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity (currently being ridden by Grapejuice, Renegade Shedite of the Game, and petitioner for the Word of Pranking Tightwads) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 17:31:58 -0800 From: Harukami Subject: Re: IN> [fiction] "Mirror Mirror" >Heh. While I'm not too interested in the whole Janus/Valefor thing, this was >a interesting way of portraying the two. I like how Valefor was somber and >slow as compared to his heavenly twin. Although, I must ask. Wouldn't it be >more fitting for Valefor to say "damn him damn him damn him" at the end >instead of swearing? Thanks! My reason for choosing that had to deal with possessiveness. Now, I'm not saying that Val *actually* wants to do Janus, but 'damn him' (or, I suppose, 'bless him') are both relatively impersonal - it's a request for the PtB to do something to someone. 'Fuck him' is personal, it's destructive, and, even when not taken literally the word is denegrading - it's about taking and using and destroying. And that is what Valefor *is*, in many ways. Though if there's other words which get across the same concept and is more fitting, I'd be glad for suggestions! Thanks again. ^_^ I really appreciate this feedback. Harukami - ---- http://haru_in.tripod.com/ Haru's IN page: Game logs, art, and fiction. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:40:53 -0700 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> [fiction] =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Mirror=20Mirror=22?= > Thanks! > > My reason for choosing that had to deal with possessiveness. Now, I'm not > saying that Val *actually* wants to do Janus, but 'damn him' (or, I > suppose, 'bless him') are both relatively impersonal - it's a request for > the PtB to do something to someone. 'Fuck him' is personal, it's > destructive, and, even when not taken literally the word is denegrading - > it's about taking and using and destroying. > > And that is what Valefor *is*, in many ways. > > Though if there's other words which get across the same concept and is more > fitting, I'd be glad for suggestions! > > Thanks again. ^_^ I really appreciate this feedback. > > Harukami > Ahh... okay, it makes sense now. Keep it that way then :D Hmm... on a heretical note, what would happen if Janus Fell/Valefor Redeemed? Would the other immediately switch sides? This is assuming of course that Janus and Valefor are somehow connected to one another. --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity (currently being ridden by Grapejuice, Renegade Shedite of the Game, and petitioner for the Word of Pranking Tightwads) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:43:10 -0700 From: "Rampaging Crypto-Man" Subject: IN> Fall of the Grigori. My historical campaign is up to the release of the demons and the Fall of the Grigori. If anyone has any ideas for neat things for the charcacters to do, I'd appreciate it. So far I have these, but more detail on any of 'em would be awesome. * Sneaking into Hell with (David Edelstein's) Azrael and seeing the gates already open. * Being one of the first few hit squads to wipe out one of the first free demons. * Rounding up Grigori. * Hunting down Nephilim. Also, because I know the characters in my game will try, what do you guys think of the possibility of them preventing the Grigori from being Outcast? The players are terrified of Dominic and have to work for him all the time, but they are also close friends with two Grigori Archangels. I see a dramatic and difficult scene coming up and would welcome any ideas on what to do. Ben "You're all the things I've got to remember." - -- A-ha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:47:18 +0000 From: "Jarrod Carmichael" Subject: Re: IN>New Attunements Sorry to be a annoyance, but could someone please repost the original letter with all these attunements. Im really keen for a read. MAllakai JC _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:48:16 -0500 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> [fiction] "Mirror Mirror" > >Hmm... on a heretical note, what would happen if Janus Fell/Valefor >Redeemed? Would the other immediately switch sides? This is assuming of >course that Janus and Valefor are somehow connected to one another. > It's also assuming that it hasn't already happened. o_O Josh ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 23:02:34 +0000 From: "Jarrod Carmichael" Subject: Re: IN> Fall of the Grigori. A great RPG moment will be the fall, especially for thos angels who want to become Malakim. The change in nature would be a great scene. A mercurian feeling his very nature changing, his wings turn black, and his compassion slips from him. Great! Of course the rebellion would make a great opening scene. Fighting knee deep in brothers and blood. Baal Vs David, Michael vs Lucifer. So much essence and powers being used. It would be epic. This campiagn cannot be mundane, its the high fantasy version of In Nomine. You deal with big issues and a large amount of time. Also, you will need to slightly modify some events, unless your playing are ignorant of canon history. Oh, and remember Uriel is still in heaven. And Angels of Purity would be as annoying as the inquisition to angels with dissonance. Raphaels still around. In fact the superior line up would be quite different. You could even start with the players being unaligned and getting recruited after the fall. >but they are also close friends with two Grigori Archangels. I see a >dramatic and difficult scene coming up and would welcome any ideas on what >to do. 2 grigori archangels? I read that write up on Azrael which i liked, but whos the other one? Ok, just some ideas. Mallakai JC _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:04:13 -0700 From: sirea@softhome.net Subject: Re: IN> Greetings Jarrod Carmichael writes: > Hello to all you people on the In Nomine Mailing list. Hullo ^-^ >Im a long time fan > of the game, who has finally decided to subsribe to a mailing list. I had > fears of doing this after some fiends of mine joined a vampire one and get > 200 messages a day. Ouch! Well, that doesn't happen here luckily. The most the list gets (and this is on a busy day) is 50 messages a day. > I myself am from New Zealand, in the south pacific. So if anyone of you > comes by this way im sure i can get you into a game. I have recently > finished 6 years of university, and now have my Masters Degree in > International relations. I wish to become a diplomat, so if I end up in > the US. Expect me to come over for a game. Wow, that's cool ^_^ I myself am still a lowly college student :/ > > Game wise, I have a decided preference for the angelic. I also have a bit > of an Uriel and tsyadim fixation, but I try not to bring it into my games > too much. "Asides from that bit in the fourth trumpet". I also purchased > every single damm book. And our exchange rate is not favourable to the US. > $1 = 40c US. Superiors 4 cost me about $70, which is roughly an 8 hour day > at a fast food joint. Ouch!! May I suggest maybe importing the books instead? It'll cost less and not murder your wallet :/ that's dedication though! I understsnd the Uriel fixtation :) I assume you've seen the Collection... there are some good writeups of Uriel on the web (especially David's). I'm going to repost a revised version of Beelzebub (my non-canon take) soon, in case you want to have Uriel's Archnemesis around for a historical game ^_^ > > Anyway. Ive never subsribed to a list, so I know this may be incorrect > protocol. So please dont flame me. Naw, no flamers here ^_^ just read the list rules like they're your bible, and you'll get by fine. --- Sirea, Free Cherub IST Destiny, Angel who Wanders, petitioner for the Word of Eternity (currently being ridden by Grapejuice, Renegade Shedite of the Game, and petitioner for the Word of Pranking Tightwads) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:11:44 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> INverse Superior: David (Djinn Version) Part 2 - --- sirea@softhome.net wrote: > > Ringer [snip] > > So basically, they have 10 CP to use on a Role to > purchase whatever they > need, and when that Role is no longer needed, everything > bought with those > 10 points dissapears, and the 10 points are freed up > again? Yep. Which makes the secret police that much harder to spot and much scarier (think Honorite of Assimilation with Ringer, and you know why everyone in INverse Hell is so nervous). > Well, this looks all well and good, and I'll be sure to > get it correctly > posted into the website soon. Nice work, and thanks > again. Glad to be of help. Now I've got to do something angelic to regain balance (back to work on the writer's-blocked Angel of Soul, I guess). =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"There are two kinds of selfishness: the kind that says, 'I must do what will make me happy,' and the kind that says, 'You must do what will make me happy.' The first is good, the second is bad." - -- Kenton E. Sinner

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 23:12:32 +0000 From: "Jarrod Carmichael" Subject: Re: IN> Fall of the Grigori. This was of course if your playing from the fall to the 2nd fall. I should have made that clear MAllakai JC _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:18:05 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Janus - --- Jarrod Carmichael wrote: > My groups thrown a number of rites, oaths, and > attunements at me. With the > suggestion to nab valefors ones i think I have almost > enough to proceed. But > more suggestions from folks will be welcome. A few Malakite Oaths: *I will leave nothing exactly the way that I found it. *I will never, by action or example, encourage stagnation. *I will not waste time second-guessing myself. *I will steal from the forces of Hell at every opportunity if I can do so without jeapordizing my current mission. *I will never use a gale to do the work of a breeze (this one is for that ultra-rare creature, the subtle Malakite of the Wind; the poetic form is from the original Angelic). =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

"There are two kinds of selfishness: the kind that says, 'I must do what will make me happy,' and the kind that says, 'You must do what will make me happy.' The first is good, the second is bad." - -- Kenton E. Sinner

__________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:37:09 -0500 From: "Brian Rogers" Subject: Re: IN> Janus > A few Malakite Oaths: > *I will leave nothing exactly the way that I found it. > *I will never, by action or example, encourage stagnation. > *I will not waste time second-guessing myself. > *I will steal from the forces of Hell at every opportunity > if I can do so without jeapordizing my current mission. > *I will never use a gale to do the work of a breeze (this > one is for that ultra-rare creature, the subtle Malakite of > the Wind; the poetic form is from the original Angelic). > I created a Windie Malakite once with the oath, "I will shake someone's life up at least once a month." "Forget about the wife and kids for now, Mr. Smith! We're goin' to Vegas!!!" Brian - -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Single & ready to mingle? lavalife.com: Where singles click. Free to Search! http://www.lavalife.com/mailcom.epl?a=2116 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:54:10 -0500 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> Fall of the Grigori. >A great RPG moment will be the fall, especially for thos angels who want to >become Malakim. The change in nature would be a great scene. A mercurian >feeling his very nature changing, his wings turn black, and his compassion >slips from him. Great! > Just a wee off in the time scale- Outcasting of the Grigori happens way too late for the Fall, Rebellion and Malakim transformation. > >2 grigori archangels? I read that write up on Azrael which i liked, but whos >the other one? > Actually, Azrael/AA of Death is the one shadowed by a great deal of iffiness. The only solidly canon Grigori Archangel is Song, Archangel of... well... Song. Josh ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:49:14 -0800 From: "Christopher Hughes" Subject: IN> Just a little something I've been thinking about . . . Merry Meet, ya'll! I'm a long-time lurker on this list with a few posts to my name (the most notable being the question of what would In Nomine be like if Lucifer was something OTHER than the first Balseraph, like, say the first Lilim or Pachadite, along with its follow-up asking about other possible leaders of the Rebellion, such as David or Novalis or even Yves), but anyway . . . I was talking with my roommate the other day and somehow, the idea of someone committing evil acts just to prove that their actions still have consequences came up, so I started thinking. Lucifer led the demons against God, who, if you believe (I think all of) the Abrahamic religions, is omnipotent, all-powerful. They can longer be sure that their actions have consequence since, as enemies of someone who is omnipotent, the results of their actions can always just, not happen. If a demon pushes a child into a busy highway, this line of thought goes, it is absolutely NOT a given that that child will probably get hit and die (a probability that, if the acting agent was a human or angel, would be so great as to be called a certainty). I just get this fun image of angsty, broody demons being evil not because they are evil, but to re-assure themselves that they still matter, that their existence is still worth having. After all, what's the point if the kid doesn't die? If I can't even do something with that level of certainty, why stay alive? Why be a demon? Which do you choose: a free life that doesn't have any point because you can't actually affect the world even in the slightest, or slavery in which you have the power to change the world or even act upon it? What are you willing to give up for freedom? For the ability to work your will upon the world? Oooohhhh, yummy, chocolatey Darkness. Sorry, I've been a little . . . off this week :-). If anyone can put this more eloquently, or game-workably (this was what I was waiting for, but gave up on), please post your version of this, because I like the idea! The Gold Dust Woman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 13:07:59 +1100 From: "james walker" Subject: IN> Madame Guillotine MADAME GUILLOTINE, Count of The Guillotine Lilim Count of Death CORPOREAL FORCES: 2 Strength : 6 Agility: 2 ETHEREAL FORCES : 6 Intelligence:12 Precision: 12 CELESTIAL FORCES: 6 Will : 12 Perception:12 WORD FORCES: 8-9. Vessel: Human Female/6, Charisma -2. Skills: Alchemy/1, Artistry(knitting)/6, Dodge/6, Emote/4, Enchant/6, Fast-talk/4, Fighting/6, Knowledge(Human Politics/5, Diabolical Politics/6), Meditation/2, Move Silently/3, Necromancy/6, Running/2, Savoir-Faire/1, Throwing/4. Songs: Attraction(Corporeal/3, Ethereal/6, Celestial/3), Blood(All/6), Charm (Corporeal/1, Ethereal/3), Entropy (Corporeal/1, Ethereal/6, Celestial/1), Form (Corporeal/3, Ethereal/5, Unlife/1), Machines(All/2), Possession/4. Attunements: All non-Restricted attunements of Death; Lilim of Nightmares, Archaic Lilim of Technology(bonus to Guillotine, obviously), Count of Death, Demon of The Guillotine; she also has other attunements from her underlings. Servants(from Lilim of Death): All have Crippled(Beheaded)/6; unless they have their heads with them they are effectively deaf, blind and mute. The points from the Crippled Discord can be used to buy Madame's Rites. Artifact: Celestial Relic/1, in the form of a (summonable) guillotine. Being guillotined in Hell automatically hacks off a Celestial Force. Discord: Ugly/3(All Vessels appear incredibly aged); 6*Geas/3(Lilith) some minor Geases to the Sisterhood. (She also has numerous Geas tokens from her sisters). Special Rites: Witness an execution by Guillotine[+2 if involved in the execution, as executioner or victim]; liquidate someone "for the revolution" (any non-religious revolution, and can be used at the same time as the previous Rite), spend 4 hours building or maintaining a guillotine; persuade a child to 'guillotine' another child's doll/toy soldier; have someone concede (without really believing) that being guillotined is a humane death[+2 if they have a nightmare about this that evening]. Special Abilities: Madame Guillotine's knitting (which she can only knit while watching guillotining) has special uses for Lilim (treat as Alchemical preparations with no time limit). In the Corporeal world, if the Lilim has gained Band dissonance, they can remove it by guillotining the offending party. In The Marches, guillotining someone who is taking dissonance/damage from delaying fulfilling a Geas increases the level of the Geas by 1 (rather than giving any other form of Ethereal Discord). After either use, the knitting loses all supernatural properties. Also, Madame Guillotine can zombify a Guillotined mortal without reattaching the head, and when Mummifying a mortal can guillotine them without ruining the ritual. Beheaded undead are a common minor reward given to her underlings. - --------------------------------- Never a particularly stable Free, Madaria had her Corporeal Forces burned away while trying to rob Notre Dame during the 17th Century. Desperate to return to Earth, Madaria was the first Lilim to swear allegiance to Vapula. She was rewarded with her Word (and took her new name) during The Terror, and expected to continue to rise through the ranks as Technology thrived. Instead, she found herself sidelined as new, more interesting projects occupied Vapula's time. Furious, she arranged to be transferred to Saminga, realising that the Word of Death was the only place left where she could thrive. Madam Guillotine is now a major power, but not on the basis of her Word (which is weaker than would be expected for a Countess). Partly it is due to her web of contacts, and partly to her incredible understanding of politics. But mostly it is from her habit of routinely informing lesser demons and demonlings that she expects them to guillotine a dozen mortals during the next month. Failure - or worse, refusal - results in the demon(ling) being guillotined themselves. (Her low Corporeal Forces don't matter as she invariably brings a lynch mob of Calabim and Djinn with her). If the demon has managed to guillotine an angel, she grants the demon one of her Rites. Those WordBound who have tried to stop her requisitioning their underlings have usually ended up guillotined themselves, so most Samingans, and many other Wordbound, have got used to having their Servants busy for a few hours every month. The most important exception is the Asmodean Duke of The Inquisition, who has been engaged in a life and death struggle with her for over a century. Their personal war has raged over all three planes of existence; both have allies in the ranks of Nightmares, and have hired entire units of troops from The War. The Demon of Being Burnt at the Stake and two Demons of Execution by Fire have fallen to Madame, and their replacements have learnt not to be too friendly with The Game - especially as the second Execution By Fire was actually executed for treason by The Game (Madame being skilled at framing others for treason). Driving Inquisition out of Fire has cost Madame, though. With her resources committed to that struggle, she was unable to stop Inquisition establishing himself in The Media. Go-betweens serving Fate have ensured that Inquisitions (somewhat spotty) record of religious atrocities remain in the public eye, while Madame's perfect record (which runs from The Terror through to the Gulag camps) is largely forgotten. Openly, Madame Guillotine has written off The Media, and has bunkered down to wait until The Media's power fades. Privately though, she is hoping for mortal backlash. Sooner or later, she believes, Christians fed up with atheists going on about the Spanish Inquisition will start abusing atheists by going on about the many atrocities she has inspired atheists to perform. If the backlash is sufficient to benefit The Sword, it can be blamed on Inquisitions' work - more than sufficient material for Madame to ensure that Inquisition is executed by his own Prince. Demon(lings) who have been assigned to Madame (or drafted by her) need to be careful how they address her. Her preferred title is Madame; referring to her as Countess or Contesse will get get the unfortunate demon(ling) guillotined - as far as Madame is concerned, noble titles are merely proof that one deserves to be beheaded. Unless the demon is a Habbalite, references to religion are also dangerous, as she watches for Inquisition spies with zealous paranoia. However, serving Madame can be very profitable. Gamesters prefer to let Madame handle her underlings, knowing that if she thinks that they are helping Inquisition eliminate her underlings, she will behead them. Further, Madame has arranged for many Words (several of them strong enough to have attunements) to be 'assigned' to her, allowing for a wide selection of Rites and Attunements to be earned by a talented demon. Words 'assisting' Madame (which have attunements) include Atheism, Beheadings, Ideological Purity [a Malphasian whose found that obeying Madame reduces the number of Vessels he goes through], Lynch Mobs, Nightmares About Being Beheaded & Public Executions. They all offer attunements; Words which lack attunements serving Madame include Botched Executions, False Treason Accusations & Murdering Political Opponents. Additionally, her web of Geases allow her to call on favours from all sorts of strange beings - although she is unlikely to waste these on the wishes of subordinates. In addition to racking up 'kills', demonlings in Madame's service will need to take an active part in discussions on the death penalty (usually arguing 'against', on the grounds that the electric chair/hanging/firing squad are inhumane; occasionally in favour - ideally be 'converted' by a pro-death penalty debater on the grounds of the humanity of the guillotine). They must also work with allied Words, and will frequently be found helping nominally Marxist dictators maintain power. The best way to please Madame is to find a way to hurt Notre Dame - she has neither forgiven nor forgotten, and anyone who manages to hurt the Tether is looking at a rich reward: an attunement from one of her underlings, at the least. Of course, most demons trying this don't survive the attempt. Cheers, James. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:16:40 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Project Silence: DETACHMENT (Not from Mr. Cleveland...) ...but he kindly said that I could play with this particular idea, so I did. Needless to say, this is not an 'official' Project Silence story: aside from everything else, I probably got some terminology wrong, because SOMEBODY (coughcoughMichaelcoughcough) hasn't been updating his webpage, thus making it impossible for me to properly review the work... ;) Anyway: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine/stories/PSDetached.htm Fun world to visit, fun to write, hopefully fun to read. Thanks for letting me use the playground, Michael. Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 09/18/02 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:28:47 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Superior Relic: Maurice's Bag Yeah, yeah, I know: hubristic of me. Still, I think that I actually may -have- an intrinsic entropy field*, and my latest travel bag -did- fall apart on me today again, so what the heck. Stick it under Cruel GM Tricks. Commentary welcome. Moe *Don't ask what happens to me and watches. Just don't. :) Superior Relic: Maurice's Bag There are actually quite a few of these: the Demon Prince of Heresy usually carries around with him a satchel or overnight bag. Unfortunately, what with the standard Calabite entropy field present at all times (at Superior level, no less), it's a rare bag that lasts more than a week. When that happens, Maurice will swear a bit, do some quick and dirty repairs... and hand the bag over to the next celestial he sees with an irritated "Here". As of yet, nobody has dared refuse the 'gift'. The first property of the Bag is that it becomes effectively indestructible once it leaves Maurice's side (although the original damage cannot ever be repaired): furthermore, the new owner will never, ever lose it - no matter how hard he or she might try. This includes Trauma and Limbo: naturally, the artifact manifests on all three planes. The mechanism by which the Bag stays with its new owner is never overt: the relic is just somehow always around. The second property of the Bag is its contents. All Bags come with a legal-sized notepad, two or three pencils and pens, a variety of loose change and two or three books. Needless to say, it is impossible to write anything True on the notepad or with the pencils or pens, the change includes coins for countries that haven't existed in centuries and/or have never existed and the books are all on either Asmodeus', Dominic's, Kronos' or Yves' Restricted lists (sometimes, all four). Also needless to say, getting rid of any of these items is effectively impossible, too. The third property is the really interesting one, in the Chinese sense of the term. The owner can stuff anything into this artifact that can fit through the opening - and that means anything. No one has found an upper limit to capacity: no matter how much is put in, the Bag stays at a steady weight of about ten pounds. This would be greatly useful, except anything that is put into the relic will come out of it changed, to a type and degree equal to the current mood and inherent cruelty of the GM. Anything changed in this manner can never be transformed back. Bags are technically, kind-of-sort-of living artifacts: this manifests itself as mostly a desire to have things put into it. If the owner doesn't on a regular basis, it will look for things to 'eat' and later regurgitate on its own. It won't actually attack anything living - or at least, nobody's ever seen one attack somebody - but watching a Bag stalk and swallow (for example) a toaster is not nearly as amusing as one would think and a whole lot more disturbing. Some celestials who have received Bags have just tried to use them as permanent memory holes, but that experiment never ends well: anything left in the artifact for too long will end up crawling out of the Bag under its own power, usually at the most inappropriate time possible. Whether anyone has ever tried to put anything living into a Bag is unknown: it's certainly possible, but the utter lack of even solid rumor about the results is indicative of something. Cost: Don't be absurd. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 09/18/02 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 12:06:52 +0800 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> Janus > *I will never use a gale to do the work of a breeze (this > one is for that ultra-rare creature, the subtle Malakite of > the Wind; the poetic form is from the original Angelic). I like this, and it would work for any Malakite (or any angel, really). Janet Anderson - -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 04:33:38 +0000 From: "Jarrod Carmichael" Subject: Re: IN> Janus Nice work my man, heres our ones. With these I have enough. Coments on them people? • Never leave a place unchanged • Never possess a mundane item for longer than one week. • Always accept a challenge to a race • Never obey a direct order • Never submit to mortal authority • Never sleep unless you are required too • Never allow yourself to be chained or confined • Always seek to defy one law per day • Never allow another to be confinded if its within your power • Never conform to be socially acceptable > > A few Malakite Oaths: > > *I will leave nothing exactly the way that I found it. > > *I will never, by action or example, encourage stagnation. > > *I will not waste time second-guessing myself. > > *I will steal from the forces of Hell at every opportunity > > if I can do so without jeapordizing my current mission. > > *I will never use a gale to do the work of a breeze (this > > one is for that ultra-rare creature, the subtle Malakite of > > the Wind; the poetic form is from the original Angelic). > > > >I created a Windie Malakite once with the oath, "I will shake someone's >life up at least once a month." > >"Forget about the wife and kids for now, Mr. Smith! We're goin' to >Vegas!!!" > >Brian >-- >__________________________________________________________ >Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com >http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > >Single & ready to mingle? lavalife.com: Where singles click. Free to >Search! >http://www.lavalife.com/mailcom.epl?a=2116 _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:08:26 -0700 From: Julian Mensch Subject: RE: IN> Janus > * Never obey a direct order Yikes! I'll bet Laurence just loves working with these guys! :) - -- Julian Mensch ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:21:34 -0800 From: edenesque@juno.com Subject: Re: IN>New Attunements All in all, thank you for sharing the creativity that flowed from your daydream! *gives essence* Well done!<<< Thanks! *stores the Essence in a safe place* ^_^ What did you think of the other ones, like Rapid Transit and Jitterbug? Also, someone suggested that for From the Mind of A Child, things like suns would appear in miniature, to prevent certain....problems with a full sun manifesting. Still, what fun to throw a sun into a demon's chest. :P ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 03:47:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: IN> Re: Project Silence: Detachment Wow. I haven't commented on anything written on the list in a while (despite some damn good stuff), but I have to comment on this. Wow. Frickin' BRILLIANT idea. Moe, I envy you sometimes. - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! "Yes, yes, yes, I'm the one that's been killing all those people, but I'm also the creative force behind Happy Noodle Boy, so forgive me and shut up." -- Johnny the Homicidal Maniac ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 05:38:16 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Madame Guillotine - --- james walker wrote: > MADAME GUILLOTINE, Count of The Guillotine > Lilim Count of Death Interesting, but I take issue with... > Madame has arranged for many Words (several of them > strong enough to have > attunements) to be 'assigned' to her, allowing for a wide > selection of Rites > and Attunements to be earned by a talented demon. Words > 'assisting' Madame > (which have attunements) include Atheism, Beheadings, > Ideological Purity [a > Malphasian whose found that obeying Madame reduces the > number of Vessels he > goes through], Lynch Mobs, Nightmares About Being > Beheaded & Public Executions. Atheism and Ideological Purity are much more powerful Words than the Guillotine, and I can't see Malphas giving them up to Saminga. Beheadings is the Word that the Guillotine would be under; the holder of that Word would be Madame's boss, not one of her underlings. If Madame tried to co-opt Nightmares About Being Beheaded, Beleth would've aced her long ago. Public Executions is one that Asmodeus _will not_ let go of -- if Madame tried to get that one, the Prince of the Game would get involved personally. Lynch Mobs are largely about hanging, not beheading, and thus that Word is of limited value to Madame. =====

Michael Walton, #US2002023848

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