--------------------GEV List Thingy, March 29th--------------------

From: Kerry Harrison <kerry@illuminati.io.com>
Subject: Re: GEV List Thingy, March 28th.
To: "Henry J. Cobb" <hcobb@fly2.berkeley.edu>

> 
> 	[My personal reading on even Today's USN is that most of a ship's
> weapons are optimized for surface attack, and that they had a few special
> weapons for targeting sub-surface targets.

You are correct, the majority of modern naval weapons are optimized for 
surface and air targets. 

> 
> 	I'd always assumed that the HWZs in GEV had the benefit of
> predeployed sensors plus special Rocket launched torpedo rounds.
> 

That's reasonable, naval guns (the existing ones) are actually very 
similiar to battlefield artillery, ships are really nothing more then 
huge mobile artillery platforms.

> 	Will you have sonar bouys?  Do Ogres carry sensor-bots that they
> deploy for targeting info?  -HJC]

No sonar bouys, but there will be various forms of underwater drones that 
can perform the same function better, now there's no reason not to have 
the permanent type of sonar line like up north of UK.

> Can't you just nuke the ice ahead of you? I'd guess ice would be
> ephemeral on an Ogre/GEV battlefield.

Yes, but in the Factory States era nukes are hard to come by, the 
infrastructure no longer exists to build them.

> My general feeling for all these rules is that they apply a lot better
> to a WW2 (say) miniatures game than they do to Ogre/GEV. Storms for
> instance: these vehicles don't care when a barrage of nukes hits the
> water next to them, but they get significantly slowed up by a storm?

Most of the nukes in Orge are of the micro variety and don't create huge 
shockwaves.  A violent storm is another story, even a modern CV is wary 
of major hurriance or typhoon.

> 	My personal preference would be for bad weather to obscure things,
> not kill folks. (It's a dark and stormy night, sensors just pick up the
> clatter of massive treads approching, is it friendly? ;-)  -HJC]

I'm leaning that way at the moment, but the fact is extremely nasty 
weather can kill and destory just as well as nukes - maybe these folks 
should postpone their little war until the storms over?
 
Kerry
___

	[In the Old Space Gamer somebody suggested a stealth Ogre (before
the Ninja) that would come in under cover of darkness or bad weather to hit
& run.

	Will Ogre's be allowed to carry sensor missiles that scatter tiny
scaning mines over an area to give (just for the Ogre itself) the effect of
a Sensor Net in a small area?  (Kinda like sending star shells over the
enemy fleet...)

	It's a good thing that the Ogre stories, unlike Bolo, don't extend
to other planets or we measure the effect on their id-systems when they
discover that the rhythmic pounding of their threads attract Sandworms...
-HJC]

	Henry J. Cobb hcobb@fly2.berkeley.edu, SFB Tyrant-for-life
"yes, I also suspect that RMS is a MITI agent too." -- Piercarlo Grandi