============ OGREverse list, Aug 25th (Last: Aug 22nd) ============= ===== BPC manufacture and damage From: Steve Jackson ===== OGRE-ish Literature From: "Todd A. Zircher" ===== Anti-Artillery shell weapons From: Patrick Odonnell ------------------------------ From: Steve Jackson Subject: BPC manufacture and damage As we work on designing the next generation of Ogre minis, a detail-minded sculptor asks: How is BPC produced; how are the parts assembled? He was thinking about showing the rivets, and then wondered: ARE there rivets? I always believed that it was cast in very big units. But some parts can't be BPC and must be fastened on somehow. Weld? Glue? Rivet? And what does damage look like on BPC? It's a biphase material . . . it is more likely to look TORN than shattered. Of course, it could melt, or it could be crushed. Thoughts? Steve Jackson - yes, of SJ Games - yes, we won the Secret Service case Learn Web or die - http://www.sjgames.com/ - dinosaurs, Lego, Kahlua! The heck with PGP keys; finger for Geek Code. Fnord. ----- [A few decades ago some wiseguy predicted the discovery of a new form of Carbon capable of withstanding direct nuclear attack. Anybody with professional chemistry training knew that Carbon was one of the most studied substances on the planet and had only two forms. What did this guy know anyway, a law school dropout who designed games for a living? A few years later a new form of elemental Carbon was discovered with properties that might prove helpful against nuclear attack. My conception is that BPC is composed of sheets of woven bucky-ball threads stacked and glued together with something nasty. If you hit a panel but don't blast through, then you'll vaporize many layers except for ragged edges that manage to dump the excess heat at the edges of the panel into the supports. To repair this you cut and paste layers of BPC to build back the armor to the approximate thickness. (Oddly enough, armor that can stop a nuke can be cut with scissors. You don't even need tin-snips.) That also explains why OGREs are such trouble to build. You have to wait for each layer to dry. (Imagines a thousand slaves with hair dryers...) -HJC] ------------------------------ From: "Todd A. Zircher" Subject: OGRE-ish Literature Dave Flitton writes: > > I have read them all, and enjoyed them very much. But the > most of the stories in the latest series of books would be > hard pressed to be a serious inspiration or reflection of > the OGRE universe. Unless they come up with a good BOLO - > bad BOLO, or "our's against their's" story, (they did have > one, but it was kind of weird). "The Traitor", kind of a Bolo tragedy where one must die even as both are serving humanity. Jeff Moore writes: > > I've got all of them, and I've read all of them, but, truth > to tell, they're not that good, and most of the stories are > immediately forgettable. There are occasional good stories, > but my overall impression is that this is just cashing in on > a good old sci-fi name. Still, you might get some scenario > ideas out of some of them. You'd be hard pressed to find anything beyond campaign ideas. They're more like human interest and struggling against adversity stories. > My "favorite" aspect of the BOLO books: there's one story > that's set - brace yourself - *50,000 years in the future*!!! > Then later in the book is another story set - *1 million years > in the future*!!!! Then there's a final story set - *1 trillion > years in the future*!!!!! And in each story a BOLO, or at least > its AI, is still functioning. (My dates may be off, but you get > the idea.) It's painfully obvious that the writers were just > trying to top each other. Ouch. I'll put those dates down as artisic license to belabor a point. Try these numbers for a little more accuracy... Most Bolo stories happen between 2018 (the Crazy Years) and 3540 (the end of the Melconian War.) There are several post war/reformation stories (one known to be set in 3606). True, there is a story dated 11,783 AD and another just listed as 'unknown'. But, by the timeline set in book 4, both are considered anecodotal records. Not too bad considering the small legion of authors that have written Bolo stories. (23 authors so far...) > OT: Someone else is writing Fafhrd and Gray Mouser books, now > that Fritz Leiber is dead. Is nothing sacred anymore? Really? More info, please. I cringed when I heard similar news about the new Bolo novels, but William H. Keith, Jr. has done a good job of carrying the spirit of series forward. -- TAZ ------------------------------ From: Patrick Odonnell Subject: Anti-Artillery shell weapons Henry Cobb wrote. > Works great if you know eaxctly how high the terrain will be at the point > where your shell lands. Nah! Just estimate and then air burst that puppy at or about one meter from the ground. Why beat up on dirt? PJ ----- [One meter isn't much time at those speeds. VT is very helpful. -HJC] Henry J. Cobb ogre@sjgames.com http://www.io.com/~hcobb All OGRE-related items Copyright (c) 1999, by Steve Jackson Games.